Depends on the weapons he has and the fighting style he uses. Take away a weapon from some people and they're no better than your average non-fighter, save for basic survival instincts you get when learning to fight.
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Simulation room could replicate them. Or just ask the Avatars and they should give you something that semi-works.
They don't really like small talk, but they wanted to know all about my interests. We talked about reading for a bit so I think they like reading. I get the feeling they don't like magic, though.
[ he snorts. ] Don't be. I think they're just grumpy and shy. Maybe. Definitely grumpy - go in with a specific conversation in mind or they'll find a way to wriggle out of it.
Oh? [ elaborate, luca. ] Like... how so, magic is magic.
The results are the same as magic. Being able to spark a fire, giant wind gusts that can knock people off of their feet, that sort of thing. But the difference is understanding how the elements react to create those reactions naturally.
Take fire, for instance: If you have proper kindling available, what you do is encourage some of the particles to vibrate at a specific frequency. When dry, combustible materials vibrate at that specific frequency, the friction between them creates the spark needed to start a fire. From there, it's a matter of manipulating the oxygen in the air around that spark to encourage growth into fire.
With proper training and practice, someone can do that in a fraction of a second. But that is wholly a scientific process, not magic. You're not just creating fire from nothing, you're using the materials available to make fire.
[Be careful Yuri, he is a nerd and will talk about this for literal hours. He actually sounds a bit excited to talk about this even in such a basic way.]
[ i hate to say yuri won't tell him to stop. but also don't make me explain fire emblem's magic system i physically can't. ]
So you have to learn it and also have the right conditions to use it in? You couldn't just summon fire in the middle of a battle, you'd need kindling and a spark before you could actually create the fire in the first place?
[ that's... literally the space of time it would take for an enemy to gut you. ] It's just... something you learn and can instinctively use where I'm from. Limitations are your own, what your skills trend towards, and how much magic you can use before it drains you, and that's about it.
Well, you only need kindling, because you're making the spark yourself. But it takes a lot of training to make that spark.
And I suspect that's the difference between your world and mine: we don't use fire on a battlefield like that. We use swords and guns and cavalry and cannons. Any sfeer theory- that's the, er, 'sort of like magic' that I am talking about- is done in a lab not in a battle.
...I suppose it could be used in guerrilla warfare tactics, but that's because the strategy gives you time to get ready first. Besides, launching a fireball at someone isn't nearly as effective as igniting a molotov cocktail and throwing it.
We do have sword fights. And cavalries,sort of. House mounted units, at the very least. But.... uh... guns? Cannons? [ that's a no. ]
... Imagine magic being confined to a lab only. What are you doing with all that research once you've done it? We have crest scholars and people who study magic, but it gets put into practical application at the end of the day. Not just... kept in the walls of a school.
It has its practical uses too. Starting fires in the cold of winter is much easier, for once. As is maintaining cooking temperature. Likewise, controlling the wind means controlling which direction a boat can travel, and controlling the flow of water means it's easier to water crops and assist with dispensing drinking water.
It's just better suited for mundane reasons, rather than for combat.
You just learn how to do it. Anyone can learn the most basic spells, but there's no guarantee that you'll be able to master it or learn more powerful magic without some sort of talent in it.
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Date: 2021-02-18 02:20 am (UTC)Comparing the number of people who can fight to those who can't? Maybe. But I would potentially call Mineo an easy target for similar reasons.
[ ... ] Maybe someone should teach you guys how to sword fight.
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Date: 2021-02-18 02:28 am (UTC)[But hmm, swords.]
I wouldn't be opposed, but do we even have swords here?
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Simulation room could replicate them. Or just ask the Avatars and they should give you something that semi-works.
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Oh, and do compliment them on their double eight pack on fire.
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Date: 2021-02-18 02:45 am (UTC)[Double eight pack? On fire???]
You, ah. You may need to explain that last part.
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Date: 2021-02-18 10:04 am (UTC)Hm. Well, it's not like I'm an all-out mage so maybe I won't get into any slap fights about it.
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Date: 2021-02-18 01:05 pm (UTC)Oh? [ elaborate, luca. ] Like... how so, magic is magic.
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Date: 2021-02-18 01:15 pm (UTC)Take fire, for instance: If you have proper kindling available, what you do is encourage some of the particles to vibrate at a specific frequency. When dry, combustible materials vibrate at that specific frequency, the friction between them creates the spark needed to start a fire. From there, it's a matter of manipulating the oxygen in the air around that spark to encourage growth into fire.
With proper training and practice, someone can do that in a fraction of a second. But that is wholly a scientific process, not magic. You're not just creating fire from nothing, you're using the materials available to make fire.
[Be careful Yuri, he is a nerd and will talk about this for literal hours. He actually sounds a bit excited to talk about this even in such a basic way.]
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Date: 2021-02-18 01:21 pm (UTC)So you have to learn it and also have the right conditions to use it in? You couldn't just summon fire in the middle of a battle, you'd need kindling and a spark before you could actually create the fire in the first place?
[ that's... literally the space of time it would take for an enemy to gut you. ] It's just... something you learn and can instinctively use where I'm from. Limitations are your own, what your skills trend towards, and how much magic you can use before it drains you, and that's about it.
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Date: 2021-02-18 01:27 pm (UTC)And I suspect that's the difference between your world and mine: we don't use fire on a battlefield like that. We use swords and guns and cavalry and cannons. Any sfeer theory- that's the, er, 'sort of like magic' that I am talking about- is done in a lab not in a battle.
...I suppose it could be used in guerrilla warfare tactics, but that's because the strategy gives you time to get ready first. Besides, launching a fireball at someone isn't nearly as effective as igniting a molotov cocktail and throwing it.
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Date: 2021-02-18 01:37 pm (UTC)We do have sword fights. And cavalries,sort of. House mounted units, at the very least. But.... uh... guns? Cannons? [ that's a no. ]
... Imagine magic being confined to a lab only. What are you doing with all that research once you've done it? We have crest scholars and people who study magic, but it gets put into practical application at the end of the day. Not just... kept in the walls of a school.
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Date: 2021-02-18 01:45 pm (UTC)It has its practical uses too. Starting fires in the cold of winter is much easier, for once. As is maintaining cooking temperature. Likewise, controlling the wind means controlling which direction a boat can travel, and controlling the flow of water means it's easier to water crops and assist with dispensing drinking water.
It's just better suited for mundane reasons, rather than for combat.
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Date: 2021-02-18 02:13 pm (UTC)Well... sure you can use magic for practical reasons too. It's just more of a thing you need to be trained in to actually use in the first place.
I don't think you'd find people who haven't had training of some description using magic.
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Date: 2021-02-18 02:26 pm (UTC)You just learn how to do it. Anyone can learn the most basic spells, but there's no guarantee that you'll be able to master it or learn more powerful magic without some sort of talent in it.
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